They're currently my go to underwear, but sadly and strangely I have to wear them inside out because the seams rub against my nuts and irritate hem because they're neither flat nor soft, problem solved inside out but it should be designed this way from the start, covered or flat seams, also the waist is slightly too high, and the cottons sags a bit after a long day of work, the main positive is the pouch, I needed this because all other boxer briefs just squash that area, or have uncomfortable separating designs that seem to strangle my package.